Lions at Panthers, Week 4
DET
Lions
2-1, on the road
CAR
Panthers
1-2, at home
Where it tips
The biggest edge each offense carries into the game, after every number is cut down to the share of it that history says holds up.
Outside the numbers
EPA per play, 8th of 32, on 86 plays
of throws against them, 22nd of 32; +0.09 allowed
What should carry: 0.04 EPA per play in the Lions’ favor, on about 79% of throws.
Passing off motion
EPA per play, 8th of 32, on 73 plays
of dropbacks against them, 14th of 32; +0.27 allowed
What should carry: 0.03 EPA per play in the Panthers’ favor, on about 56% of dropbacks.
When the Lions have the ball
Drew Petzing calling plays against Ejiro Evero’s defense.
How Drew Petzing attacks
Drew Petzing calls the plays for the Lions offense. The Lions throw short on 59% of throws, most in the NFL; the league average is 48%. They line up under center on 87% of runs, 2nd most; the league average is 69%. They use play-action on 35% of dropbacks, 2nd most; the league average is 25%. These are play-calling habits, and history says habits like these tend to hold up over a season.
Where the edge is
This is where the Lions offense is expected to gain the most, after each number is cut to the share that history says holds up. On throws outside the numbers, 0.04 EPA per play is expected in the Lions' favor, on about 79% of throws. The Lions have averaged +0.32 EPA per play there so far (8th of 32, 86 plays). EPA is expected points added. The sheet ranks one more edge behind it. On passes after pre-snap motion, 0.03 EPA per play is expected in the Lions' favor, on about 58% of dropbacks.
How the Panthers defense has been beaten so far
Ejiro Evero calls the Panthers defense. This is a record of 3 games, not a forecast. The Panthers have allowed +0.11 EPA per play on early-down runs, 31st of 32, on 72 plays. They have allowed +0.17 EPA per play on runs into a light box, 30th of 32, on 40 plays. History says results like these mostly do not carry, so the sheet gives them little or no weight.
What could kill the idea
The Panthers have an edge of their own. On throws from outside the pocket, 0.04 EPA per play is expected in the Panthers' favor, on about 16% of dropbacks. The Panthers have pressured the quarterback on 26% of dropbacks, 7th of 32. Jaelan Phillips leads the Panthers pass rush: 8 pressures, 2 sacks. All of this rests on 3 games, which is a thin sample.
The call
One statement about this game, on the record before kickoff and graded after.
The Lions will be at or above +0.14 EPA per play on this slice, the league average through last week. Fewer than 8 plays voids it. Written 9 hours before kickoff.
Where the Lions throw, and who is there
Lighter turf and the percentages show how the Lions spread their throws by depth. The chips rate the Panthers position groups on 3 games, with the share of targets thrown at each.
Jared Goff with the ball
What Drew Petzing calls
The habits furthest from the rest of the league. The white tick is the league average.
What Ejiro Evero calls
How long quarterbacks have held the ball against the Panthers
League average is 2.84 seconds. A defense that forces the ball out early shows up as quarterbacks throwing quicker than they do elsewhere.
Where the Lions should gain
Ranked by what is expected to carry into this game, not by the raw number.
Where the Panthers should get stops
How the Panthers defense has been beaten so far
A record of 3 games, not a forecast. Bars beside a number show how much of it tends to still be true later in the season; for most of these, none.
Panthers defenders to know
When the Panthers have the ball
Brad Idzik calling plays against Kelvin Sheppard’s defense.
How Brad Idzik attacks
Brad Idzik calls the plays for the Panthers offense. The Panthers target running backs on 12% of throws, 3rd fewest; the league average is 18%. They drop back to pass on 68% of snaps, 3rd most; the league average is 60%. They throw a screen on 4% of dropbacks, 4th fewest; the league average is 8%. These are play-calling habits, and history says habits like these tend to hold up over a season.
Where the edge is
This is where the Panthers offense is expected to gain the most, after each number is cut to the share that history says holds up. On passes after pre-snap motion, 0.03 EPA per play is expected in the Panthers' favor, on about 56% of dropbacks. The Panthers have averaged +0.28 EPA per play there so far (8th of 32, 73 plays). EPA is expected points added. The sheet ranks one more edge behind it. On throws to running backs, 0.09 EPA per play is expected in the Panthers' favor, on about 16% of throws.
How the Lions defense has been beaten so far
Kelvin Sheppard calls the Lions defense. This is a record of 3 games, not a forecast. The Lions have allowed +1.92 EPA per play on deep throws, last of the 27 teams with enough plays, on 15 plays. They have allowed +0.77 EPA per play on throws to wide receivers, last in the NFL, on 57 plays. History says results like these mostly do not carry, so the sheet gives them little or no weight.
What could kill the idea
The Lions have an edge of their own. On runs up the middle, 0.02 EPA per play is expected in the Lions' favor, on about 31% of runs. The Lions have pressured the quarterback on 23% of dropbacks, 15th of 32. Aidan Hutchinson leads the Lions pass rush: 9 pressures, 3.5 sacks. Monroe Freeling is the Panthers starting right tackle, listed as questionable (concussion). Jalen Coker is the Panthers starting wide receiver, listed as questionable (quadricep). All of this rests on 3 games, which is a thin sample.
The call
One statement about this game, on the record before kickoff and graded after.
The Panthers will be at or above +0.11 EPA per play on this slice, the league average through last week. Fewer than 8 plays voids it. Written 9 hours before kickoff.
Where the Panthers throw, and who is there
Lighter turf and the percentages show how the Panthers spread their throws by depth. The chips rate the Lions position groups on 3 games, with the share of targets thrown at each.
Bryce Young with the ball
What Brad Idzik calls
The habits furthest from the rest of the league. The white tick is the league average.
What Kelvin Sheppard calls
How long quarterbacks have held the ball against the Lions
League average is 2.84 seconds. A defense that forces the ball out early shows up as quarterbacks throwing quicker than they do elsewhere.
Where the Panthers should gain
Ranked by what is expected to carry into this game, not by the raw number.
Where the Lions should get stops
How the Lions defense has been beaten so far
A record of 3 games, not a forecast. Bars beside a number show how much of it tends to still be true later in the season; for most of these, none.
Lions defenders to know
Lineups and injuries
Lions
Offense
- QBJared Goff
- WRAmon-Ra St. Brown
- LTPenei Sewell
- LGChristian Mahogany
- CJuice Scruggs
- RGTate Ratledge
- RTBlake Miller
- TESam LaPorta
- RBJahmyr Gibbs
- WRJameson Williams
- WRIsaac TeSlaa
Defense
- LDEAidan Hutchinson
- LDTAlim McNeill
- RDTTyleik Williams
- RDETyler Lacy
- WLBDerrick Barnes
- MLBJack Campbell
- SLBDevin White
- LCBD.J. Reed questionable
- SSChristian Izien
- FSChuck Clark
- RCBEnnis Rakestraw Jr.
- NBRoger McCreary
Out or doubtful: Ben Bartch (G, foot)
Questionable: D.J. Reed (CB, rib)
Panthers
Offense
- QBBryce Young
- WRTetairoa McMillan
- LTRasheed Walker
- LGCorey Bullock
- CLuke Fortner
- RGRobert Hunt
- RTMonroe Freeling questionable
- TETommy Tremble
- RBChuba Hubbard
- WRJalen Coker questionable
- WRBrycen Tremayne
Defense
- LDEDerrick Brown
- NTLee Hunter questionable
- RDEBobby Brown III
- WLBPatrick Jones II
- LILBDevin Lloyd
- RILBBobby Okereke
- SLBJaelan Phillips
- LCBAkayleb Evans
- SSTre'von Moehrig
- FSNick Scott
- RCBWill Lee III
- NBChau Smith-Wade
Out or doubtful: Damien Lewis (G, elbow), Xavier Legette (WR, knee)
Questionable: Jalen Coker (WR, quadricep), Cam Jackson (DT, knee), Monroe Freeling (T, concussion), Lee Hunter (DT, foot)
First string from each club’s posted depth chart, with this week’s injury report laid over it. Game-day inactives are announced 90 minutes before kickoff and are not reflected here.
How to read this sheet
Ratings run from 59 to 99. A 99 is the best of the 32 teams on that unit’s numbers so far this season, a 59 the worst, in even steps. They describe 3 games. They are not a judgment of talent.
Position groups are rated on what their players were charted allowing or creating. Cornerbacks and safeties: yards per target 40%, passer rating allowed 40%, missed-tackle rate 20%. Linebackers: yards per target 35%, passer rating allowed 35%, missed-tackle rate 30%. Edge rushers: pressures per 100 snaps. Interior line: pressures per 100 snaps 80%, missed-tackle rate 20%.
The small bars beside a number show how much of it tends to still be true over the rest of a season, measured on 2022 through 2025. After 3 games a play-caller’s habits hold up well. What a defense has allowed mostly does not: of 36 ways of cutting a defense’s results, two showed any carry-over, and only those are allowed to count toward an edge.
There is no coverage panel. Nobody publishes which coverages a defense has played while the season is being played, and this sheet does not print a number it cannot source.
Numbers are not adjusted for opponents yet. Tested on four seasons, adjusting after three games made an offense’s numbers a worse guide to the rest of its year. It starts to help around Week 6.
Coverage ratings are a record, not a read. Over those four seasons, the yards a position group allowed per target after three games told you almost nothing about the rest of its year. Which group gets thrown at did carry, so each coverage group shows its share of targets. Pass-rush pressure carries a little. The working is on the what doesn’t work page.
EPA is expected points added: how much a play changed the points a team could expect to score on the drive.